YSK which top-level domains (TLDs) are controled by US organisations (and which aren't)
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I'm afraid the non-US parts of the world need to decentralize the internet sooner rather than later
in the meantime autistici can register an .epic/.indy/.libre domain or help set up a new tld of their choosing in an alternative namespace
Why would they use a TLD that isn't recognized by most DNS providers for e.g. their email services?
People generally want their email addresses to be reachable. They don't just use it for super secret activism.
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Why would they use a TLD that isn't recognized by most DNS providers for e.g. their email services?
People generally want their email addresses to be reachable. They don't just use it for super secret activism.
because of what's going on right now. because they can't get a domain from any organization that's under the auspices of icann
edit: the alternative is for autistici to go nameless and for autistici users to type in an ip address instead of https://www.autistici.$TLD
to make the web resistant to such censorship we need to have service providers that accept and support alternative namespaces; the alternative to that is for service providers to just stop accepting the authority of the us government and organizations such as icann and stop accepting routes and dns records from entities that do^[accept the authority of the us government and organizations such as icann] and create their own routing tables and dns records, thus effectively ending the inter part of the internet
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because of what's going on right now. because they can't get a domain from any organization that's under the auspices of icann
edit: the alternative is for autistici to go nameless and for autistici users to type in an ip address instead of https://www.autistici.$TLD
to make the web resistant to such censorship we need to have service providers that accept and support alternative namespaces; the alternative to that is for service providers to just stop accepting the authority of the us government and organizations such as icann and stop accepting routes and dns records from entities that do^[accept the authority of the us government and organizations such as icann] and create their own routing tables and dns records, thus effectively ending the inter part of the internet
You could also use decentralized name services such as eth or sol domains.
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You could also use decentralized name services such as eth or sol domains.
you could, yes
which domain name servers resolve .eth and .sol domains? The ones I use don't, unfortunately
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Why: so your site can't be taken down by the USA.
At least one .org website that I know of has been shut down because the USA pressured the US organisation that controls the .org domain into doing so.
They could repeat this at will for quite a number of sites.
An immediate step to prevent this possibility, if you run a website, is to register a domain that is controled outside the US.
I have not found one article that just lists them all, and who controls them, but most TLDs have their own wikipedia article, e.g. .org (US controled), .eu (not US controled, yay) etc.
Ultimately ICANN controls all of this, and that's a US orga too, and Trump could bully them into doing shit, too. But the people who know about these things don't seem to think that's a likely threat right now. Also ICANN seems to defer a lot of tasks to exactly these TLD orgas. After all the internet still is (somewhat) decentralized.
Context
https://web.archive.org/web/20260829204913/https://www.inventati.org/campaign/press
Further reading
https://blog.apnic.net/2023/01/13/who-controls-the-internet/
https://netmeister.org/blog/tlds.htmlList of
allmost TLDs created with this script.
This GIF was brought to you by DNS.
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Why: so your site can't be taken down by the USA.
At least one .org website that I know of has been shut down because the USA pressured the US organisation that controls the .org domain into doing so.
They could repeat this at will for quite a number of sites.
An immediate step to prevent this possibility, if you run a website, is to register a domain that is controled outside the US.
I have not found one article that just lists them all, and who controls them, but most TLDs have their own wikipedia article, e.g. .org (US controled), .eu (not US controled, yay) etc.
Ultimately ICANN controls all of this, and that's a US orga too, and Trump could bully them into doing shit, too. But the people who know about these things don't seem to think that's a likely threat right now. Also ICANN seems to defer a lot of tasks to exactly these TLD orgas. After all the internet still is (somewhat) decentralized.
Context
https://web.archive.org/web/20260829204913/https://www.inventati.org/campaign/press
Further reading
https://blog.apnic.net/2023/01/13/who-controls-the-internet/
https://netmeister.org/blog/tlds.htmlList of
allmost TLDs created with this script.Not to defend this bullshit action (by the US government) in any way, but it seems like panic might be premature - whereas caution is always a good idea.
As far as I can tell, this bullshit reason about "antifa" (which is US fascism bullshitÂą) is, so far, unprecedented. This is the first time.
Is this the last time? Sure, that seems unlikely.
And again, I emphasize that I think caution is advised.
So sure, if you're starting up an organization or otherwise running one that might piss of the fascists, making sure you're running it on a TLD (or ccTLD) that is not controlled by a US organization is not a bad idea.
But if you're making those sorts of plans, definitely look at other ways of communication that also don't rely on US-controlled orgs, because as pointed out, ICANN is a US org, so if they can put pressure on a registrar, they can put pressure on ICANN for sure.
Âą as opposed to "terrorism", which is at least debatable and probably often valid and only somewhat abused
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I'm afraid the non-US parts of the world need to decentralize the internet sooner rather than later
in the meantime autistici can register an .epic/.indy/.libre domain or help set up a new tld of their choosing in an alternative namespace
Americans also need everyone to work on decentralization, too.
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because of what's going on right now. because they can't get a domain from any organization that's under the auspices of icann
edit: the alternative is for autistici to go nameless and for autistici users to type in an ip address instead of https://www.autistici.$TLD
to make the web resistant to such censorship we need to have service providers that accept and support alternative namespaces; the alternative to that is for service providers to just stop accepting the authority of the us government and organizations such as icann and stop accepting routes and dns records from entities that do^[accept the authority of the us government and organizations such as icann] and create their own routing tables and dns records, thus effectively ending the inter part of the internet
We need for Trump et allÂą to make some larger mistakes and do some really stupid things that cause a significant percentage of people to seek alternative ways of access, i.e. enough stupid shit to cause people to set up alternate root DNS systems.
Of course, people with the capacity to do that are like Google et all, who - in that specific example - have set up 8.8.8.8 (etc) and currently seem to be acting pretty decently, but who knows how long that would last, and if a real battle of DNS started up, you'd want stuff hosted by people in other countries anyway, soooo.......
But it seems like we're very far out from that war.
Âą i.e. the fascists
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DNS is controled by ICANN, a US orga. Trump could effectively shut down the whole internet
dude. dont put this in print, he might find out. the guy has zero boundaries, ethics or morals.
It would cause chaos, yes, like other stupid things he's done.
But in addition to the chaos, people would spin up solutions, and as things settled down and everyone got back online again, the result would be a decentralized internet.
So it's sort of the same as wishing for a civil war, or wishing against one: Either way, the result might end up with things in a much better state, although the pain would be real in the meantime. (and lives lost in the case of civil war - and in both cases, not guaranteed to be better, although if things got to that point, they probably would end up being better).
Don't think I'm wishing he'll do it, mind. But if he does stupid things… that will be the result.
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I thought you'd provide a list of TLDs that weren't US controlled (that you know of).
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