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Is this any service, with a well-defined api, that is callable from the instance software?

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  • boiert@socialhub.activitypub.rocksB This user is from outside of this forum
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    Is this any service, with a well-defined api, that is callable from the instance software? So the way hashtags work now could be a FASP as well? Or are we thinking more along the lines of .. alt-texting, translations, those kinds of things?

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      I've recently been learning about FASPs, and started playing around with making some prototypes. As it's still a relatively new concept, and I've not been able to find much discussion on it, I thought I'd kick one off here. Obviously the amount of code for FASPs at the moment is small in both scope and deployment. So it's probably more useful to focus on the potential of the concept, rather than its current state.

      So for those who have looked into it:

      • What FASPs might you want one day to be available to your server to use?
      • Or what FASP features might you want to one day provide to other servers?

      Or even just generally, I would love to hear people's thoughts about the FASP concept overall.

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      • rochebit@socialhub.activitypub.rocksR rochebit@socialhub.activitypub.rocks

        I've recently been learning about FASPs, and started playing around with making some prototypes. As it's still a relatively new concept, and I've not been able to find much discussion on it, I thought I'd kick one off here. Obviously the amount of code for FASPs at the moment is small in both scope and deployment. So it's probably more useful to focus on the potential of the concept, rather than its current state.

        So for those who have looked into it:

        • What FASPs might you want one day to be available to your server to use?
        • Or what FASP features might you want to one day provide to other servers?

        Or even just generally, I would love to hear people's thoughts about the FASP concept overall.

        silverpill@mitra.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        silverpill@mitra.social
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        #3

        A similar concept already exists in ActivityPub: relays.

        So far, no justification for a brand new protocol has been provided.

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        • rochebit@socialhub.activitypub.rocksR rochebit@socialhub.activitypub.rocks

          I've recently been learning about FASPs, and started playing around with making some prototypes. As it's still a relatively new concept, and I've not been able to find much discussion on it, I thought I'd kick one off here. Obviously the amount of code for FASPs at the moment is small in both scope and deployment. So it's probably more useful to focus on the potential of the concept, rather than its current state.

          So for those who have looked into it:

          • What FASPs might you want one day to be available to your server to use?
          • Or what FASP features might you want to one day provide to other servers?

          Or even just generally, I would love to hear people's thoughts about the FASP concept overall.

          rochebit@socialhub.activitypub.rocksR This user is from outside of this forum
          rochebit@socialhub.activitypub.rocksR This user is from outside of this forum
          rochebit@socialhub.activitypub.rocks
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          #4

          The current FASP work does seem to focused on addressing discovery, which has a large overlap with relays.

          But my understanding is that is in theory the scope of services/capabilities can be much broader (e.g, Mastodon is working on one for content detection of spam/illegal material, and another for shared remote media storage).

          So the way I was thinking about it (unclear if this is the way they intended) was considering what services or functionality I might want for my ActivityPub server that either:

          • benefit from not being siloed to my server (e.g, 3p integration, more data, or reduced cost)
          • or benefit from not being reliant on my ActivityPub software (e.g, more choice, or not as constrained by one teams bandwidth and roadmap priorities)
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          • rochebit@socialhub.activitypub.rocksR rochebit@socialhub.activitypub.rocks

            The current FASP work does seem to focused on addressing discovery, which has a large overlap with relays.

            But my understanding is that is in theory the scope of services/capabilities can be much broader (e.g, Mastodon is working on one for content detection of spam/illegal material, and another for shared remote media storage).

            So the way I was thinking about it (unclear if this is the way they intended) was considering what services or functionality I might want for my ActivityPub server that either:

            • benefit from not being siloed to my server (e.g, 3p integration, more data, or reduced cost)
            • or benefit from not being reliant on my ActivityPub software (e.g, more choice, or not as constrained by one teams bandwidth and roadmap priorities)
            boiert@socialhub.activitypub.rocksB This user is from outside of this forum
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            rochebit:

            But my understanding is that is in theory the scope of services/capabilities can be much broader (e.g, Mastodon is working on one for content detection of spam/illegal material, and another for shared remote media storage).

            Oof that sounds exactly like the services that depend on the derogation of the ePrivacy directive, and like so, something we don't want, Chat Control.

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            • rochebit@socialhub.activitypub.rocksR rochebit@socialhub.activitypub.rocks

              The current FASP work does seem to focused on addressing discovery, which has a large overlap with relays.

              But my understanding is that is in theory the scope of services/capabilities can be much broader (e.g, Mastodon is working on one for content detection of spam/illegal material, and another for shared remote media storage).

              So the way I was thinking about it (unclear if this is the way they intended) was considering what services or functionality I might want for my ActivityPub server that either:

              • benefit from not being siloed to my server (e.g, 3p integration, more data, or reduced cost)
              • or benefit from not being reliant on my ActivityPub software (e.g, more choice, or not as constrained by one teams bandwidth and roadmap priorities)
              silverpill@mitra.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              silverpill@mitra.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              Mastodon is working on one for content detection of spam/illegal material, and another for shared remote media storage

              I think this is still not enough to justify a brand new protocol. ActivityPub is JSON and HTTP, after all, it can be used for anything.

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