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  • evan@activitypub.spaceE evan@activitypub.space

    @julian yes, I agree. This is a different idea -- that somehow interaction between actors on different servers will make their servers connect and share data. It's incorrect, but it's interesting.

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    @evan oh I see what you mean... that a server merely discovers another, and that kickstarts a mutual sharing of activities.

    I'm afraid that would be a bit of a scaling challenge 😁

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    • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

      @evan oh I see what you mean... that a server merely discovers another, and that kickstarts a mutual sharing of activities.

      I'm afraid that would be a bit of a scaling challenge 😁

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      @julian here's an example I found with a search:

      https://f.bumblebee.systems/@bumblebee/113834766747645985

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      • evan@activitypub.spaceE evan@activitypub.space

        @julian here's an example I found with a search:

        https://f.bumblebee.systems/@bumblebee/113834766747645985

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        Here's another:

        https://mstdn.kevinthetechguy.ca/@kevinlovestech/112873393455953967

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        • evan@activitypub.spaceE evan@activitypub.space

          @julian here's an example I found with a search:

          https://f.bumblebee.systems/@bumblebee/113834766747645985

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          @evan I think it is a misunderstanding of the current activity distribution styles... and it's entirely understandable isn't it? You install some software, it knows nobody, nobody knows you, and somehow you're supposed to kickstart content discovery.

          I don't know what the solution is, but I did mentally note while implementing relay support that it would be simple to turn NodeBB into a relay itself, and have all NodeBBs just use a central NodeBB (aka mine) as a source of content.

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            A similar feature exists in Pleroma. I actually find it useful, my server follows a couple of Pleroma instances in addition to relays

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            • silverpill@mitra.socialS silverpill@mitra.social

              A similar feature exists in Pleroma. I actually find it useful, my server follows a couple of Pleroma instances in addition to relays

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              @silverpill@mitra.social really? How does it work?

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              • evan@activitypub.spaceE evan@activitypub.space

                @silverpill@mitra.social really? How does it work?

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                Does it use the relay method? I always thought that if I implemented something like that I'd be the first. Cool to know Pleroma already supports.

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                • evan@activitypub.spaceE evan@activitypub.space

                  @silverpill@mitra.social really? How does it work?

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                  It's a LitePub relay actor, located at /relay. Announces all public posts if relaying is enabled in config.

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                  • silverpill@mitra.socialS silverpill@mitra.social

                    It's a LitePub relay actor, located at /relay. Announces all public posts if relaying is enabled in config.

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                    That makes sense.

                    When I implemented the Litepub style relay logic I figured it would immediately work the same way as well (since two-way relay communication uses the Follow-Accept flow as well.)

                    It did not work immediately with NodeBB, have yet to figure out why 😏

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                    • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                      Does it use the relay method? I always thought that if I implemented something like that I'd be the first. Cool to know Pleroma already supports.

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                      @julian @technical-discussion @evan pleroma ships a /relay actor turned on by default that follows back other relays, this server subscribes to a thousand or so of them, announces get turned into remotefetches for efficiency, and the network is filled effortlessly without follow for follow botting

                      wish the network had some sort of shared as:public /outbox too for backfill
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